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Confessions of a Bad News Bear
by Jon Zelazny
The Reverend David Stambaugh is the Pastoral Associate at Hollywood United Methodist Church. He earned his BA from Messiah College, a Masters of Divinity from Alliance Theological Seminary, and a Masters of Sacred Theology from Drew University.
Prior to entering the ministry, he portrayed infielder Toby Whitewood in The Bad News Bears (1976), The Bad News Bears in Breaking Training (1977), and The Bad News Bears Go to Japan (1978).
DAVE STAMBAUGH: I was actually playing Little League at that time, so it was a world I really knew. I remember one time I couldn’t make it to a callback audition because our team was in the area play-offs. I like to think that helped me get the job: “Hey, that kid can’t come in for our movie today— because he’s playing baseball!”
The first auditions were readings in NYC casting offices, but then we moved to Central Park, and started playing catch and hitting balls with the director, Michael Ritchie.
Getting the job was amazing. Imagine being eleven years old, and someone says, “Would you like to spend three months in California playing ball, and get paid for it?”
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Bears was of course notorious in its day because of the kids’ profanity. Watching it today, it wasn’t so much the kids’ dialogue that shocked me, but how much Walter Matthau swears at the kids.
I don’t think you could do a word-for-word remake of it. Times have changed.
Another classic scene you probably couldn’t do today is when Matthau is taking you all somewhere in his convertible. He’s drinking a can of beer, doing about thirty-five mph, with maybe four or five of you riding on the back ledge of the car.
Yeah, we’re short about twelve seatbelts there.
You probably didn’t think anything of it at the time.
None of that stuff fazed us. Jackie Earle Haley riding a motorcycle down the middle of Devonshire Boulevard? Fine.
The only thing that raised some eyebrows was when Matthau hands out those beers to us after the big game. But even the guy playing my father; his only concern is that we hide the beer because the local news is there. He never says to Buttermaker, “Are you crazy? You can’t give alcohol to kids!”
I think it’s the perfect ending, given how they’ve been watching Buttermaker drink like a fish for the whole picture.
I also like that they’re celebrating that they lost. Here’s an interesting note: for a long time we didn’t know how the movie would end, because they actually filmed the last play of the big game both ways. The one they used has Kelly (Jackie Earl Haley) getting tagged out, but they also shot footage of an extra man on base, Kelly making his home run, and the Bears winning the game. Michael Ritchie took some of us out to dinner a few days before the premiere, and that’s when he told us what had been decided. I think we were all pretty happy about it. It seemed like the more authentic ending.
I’m surprised he even shot the other stuff. I would have been afraid the studio would pick the other one. Then again, maybe Paramount made him shoot it.
Was screenwriter Bill Lancaster around a lot?
He was. It’s hard at ten, eleven, or twelve years old to recognize the quality of the writing… though we were all certainly proud when Bill won the Writer’s Guild award for Best Comedy that year.
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Was Walter Matthau on your kid radar at all? Had you seen any of his movies?
I doubt it. I certainly wasn’t like, “Yes! I’m gonna work with Walter Matthau!” Again, you don’t appreciate how amazing some of these people are until ten or fifteen years later.
One day, for instance, Walter’s buddy Jack Lemmon dropped by for the day, and the two of them took us all out to lunch at this BBQ place. At the time, we didn’t think much about it. Today? People are amazed: “Man, you got to have lunch with The Odd Couple!”
It was the same with Michael Ritchie. Here was a guy who directed a number of really high quality and successful films.
I think he’s due for some reappraisal. He was never a name that excited film students, but you can certainly see The Candidate (1972), Smile (1975), and The Bad News Bears a pretty biting trilogy of social critiques. And a later one that strikes that same chord is "The Positively True Adventures of The Alleged Texas Cheerleader-Murdering Mom" (1993), which he did for HBO with Holly Hunter.
I was surprised how many prominent names there are in Bears’ opening credits. Stanley Jaffe produced it, John Alonzo shot it, Polly Platt was your production designer. Ritchie had a dream team on both sides of the camera.
Even some people in the lower ranks: there was a 2nd assistant director on Breaking Training named David Nicksay who became a very successful producer. Or an actor like Vic Morrow: I didn’t know him going in, but what a great body of work that guy had.
It’s very brave what he does in Bears. Roy is a nightmare of a suburban dad, and Morrow doesn’t try to sugarcoat him in any way. Not a lot of name actors would want to play a guy who’s so mean to kids, and then even more cruel to his own son.
You know who played that part in the remake with Billy Bob Thornton? Greg Kinnear. Now, he’s a fine serious actor—
—but he’s warm and friendly.
Exactly. Guy-next-door. It certainly didn’t have the impact of Vic Morrow.
That’s how William Devane comes off in Breaking Training. He’s very likable, but the character has no edge at all. When he cracks that first Budweiser, it suddenly hit me how much I missed grumpy old Matthau.
Now Tatum O’Neal must have had a fair amount of pressure on her. It was only her second movie—after winning an Oscar for her first—she had second billing, and was a celebrity and the daughter of a celebrity. How does an eleven-year-old handle all that?
Quite well, I think. I mean it was clear that she was Tatum O’Neal and we weren’t. She had been in the business longer and more prominently than any of us, and when you live in that world, you are different. Personally, I got along with her very well.
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I think her best scenes are the ones where she gets to play the same dynamic with Matthau that she had with her father in Paper Moon (1973). The ones where Buttermaker comes off like a hopeless ne’er-do-well and she’s the more mature person looking out for him are really very touching.
Your character Toby is a straight man. Was it easier on you playing a kid who didn’t have to walk around carrying a cliché like some of the others?
Toby felt very true to who I was. There’s no shtick; I didn’t have to be the fat kid eating candy bars. Toby is usually described as the peacemaker. His dad is the downtown politician, and Toby is like the team politician. He explains things to Buttermaker. He’s the one who gets up and says, “We took a vote on this.”
What impresses me about you in all three pictures is your spirit. You’re always engaged and excited by what’s going on, even when it’s a stupid scene, like that Japanese talent show in the third movie. You’re a trouper. Well, I certainly wasn’t the type of actor who stood around thinking, “Hmm. What’s my motivation here? Why am I throwing this ball?” I was a kid having fun playing a kid having fun. Playing a lesser-known character also must have been easier in the sense that I imagine for years after those films, people would meet the kid who played scrappy little Tanner (Christopher Barnes) and expect him to be Tanner. I think that’s very true. It happens to a lot of kids in the business. And adults. You become identified with a particular role, and then you’re typecast. Barnes did not pursue acting as an adult, right? No, a number of us decided when we got to be college age that we were going to do other things. The business is very different for kids and adults. When you’re a kid and an agent calls your parents and wants to send you on an audition, the best part is you get out of school for the day! It’s wonderful. And I was lucky enough to have a great guidance counselor who understood what a tremendous gift it was for me to work in the industry, but he also looked out for me by saying it was only okay as long as I kept my grades up. Once you get to be fifteen, eighteen, twenty-five, it’s a different story. An adult has to put money on the table. If you don’t have that passion in your veins to be going out on auditions, hitting the streets, working as a waiter until midnight… you don’t do it. When the first movie broke out as a major hit, what was the impact on you? I had been in the business since I was about five. I did commercials, and I was on a soap called "Love of Life" for a while, and those kinds of jobs just came and went. What happened after Bears that was all new to me was suddenly doing publicity tours, and press junkets, and promotions. We went to movie theaters, we did interviews, we went on local TV shows. I can remember big crowds, and signing autographs, and taking pictures with people. I think I realized it was becoming a cultural phenomenon when I went in a convenience store and saw an issue of Sports Illustrated with a cover story about the Chicago Bears, and the title they used was “The Bad News Bears.” Of course, you know the thing has really taken off when they ask you to be in the sequel!
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Being a former wrestler, to me, the greatest thrill, had I been in the third one, was getting to work with Antonio Inoki. Would love to have gotten David's thoughts on him and if he realized, at the time, just how famous Inoki was, given that fact that, just two years prior, he had a boxer/wrestler match with Muhammed Ali.
ReplyDeleteGreat interview... I can't express how much I loved the Bad News Bears as a kid... being the same age as the actors, playing sandlot baseball but wanting so bad to play on a Little League team, wanting so bad to be Kelly Leak and having a motorcycle... the movie captured so many of my childhood dreams! To this day, if I stumble across it on TV I watch it. To read this article and not hear about terrible things (well, I guess Tatum has had her issues) is nice... I cannot think of a movie that I loved more than The Bad News Bears... not even Star Wars or Jaws...
ReplyDeleteGreat interview!!! I loved wacthing the 'edited for television' version that was beamed on ABC occasionally as I grew up in the early eighties...
ReplyDeleteThe kids in the movie were round about my age& don't recall noticing that this stoey was told in a decade earier than mine, ha ha!!
One of my all time favourite movies & probably the BEST 'roadie' I've seen to date...
Again, really a GREAT interview!!!
Loved the first and second movies... great interview with great context.
ReplyDeleteInterview, what to say excellent wonderful. It is fun to read and had a lot interesting info's.
ReplyDeleteI had started playing little league baseball just prior to the first Bad News Bears movie. I was the first girl in my league, and had to put up with tortuous teasing, sometimes resulting in physical altercations. However, when I saw Tatum O'Neil in The Bad News Bears, I felt vidicated and proud to have stuck with it through the worst. I loved playing ball, and all of you made me enjoy it so much more. Thank you
ReplyDeleteGreat interview. Thank you.
ReplyDeleteI’m just 5 years older than Dave Stambaugh and found this interview after watching a young Chris Barnes in an old episode of “Taxi” in which he holds his own with Danny Devito. It brought back the wave of creative brilliance that was prevalent in the 1970’s. “The Bad News Bears”, “Animal House”, “All In The Family”, “Mary Tyler Moore.” The most compelling element about your piece is the way in which studio executives caved into the conservative Christian right and dumbed down scripts and projeects so that by 1980 the cutting edge brilliance of character driven entertainment was gone and has never returned.
ReplyDeleteLOVE THIS!!! To this day I’ll watch The Bad News Bears and The Bad News Bears I’m Breaking Training every chance it’s on tv.
ReplyDeleteThanks so much for this!
I got to watch the Bears in breaking training at Bayland park Houston! Took wonderful polaroids! Hung on the balcony with Dave at the Warwick Hotel then whisked by limo to the Astrodome to watch them play! Also played basketball with Brett Marx near my old elementary school! We visited his mom's boutique store and went to his house in Laurel Canyon.will cherish being with the bears forever!
ReplyDeleteHi I am David Ganz. Elise Ganz was the bears school teacher when off set. I was invited to see the film in Breaking Training at Bayland Park under the scorching Texas heat..I got to meet them all and Bill Vdevane. Got some good polaroids! We then went to historic Warwick Hotel and hung out with Dave Stambaug so nice! A limo whisked is the Astrodome for Bad News Bears day! I had the honor of hanging and playing basketball with Brett Marx near my old elementary school. He would shout Kareem...Abdul..Jabbar! I travelled to California and saw his mom at her boutique shop and Brett took me to his home in Laurel Canyon.Was a dream come true!
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